"course I know what irony is, it's like goldy, or bronzy!"

<<<<<Anyone here remember the "good old days" when it was enought to be white, male and English while everyone else had to apologise and be grateful?>>>>>



Nope, can't say that I do..  Probably because such times never existed for a start, quite a sweeping stereotype there.    I don't recall anyone ever apologising to me because they were different, and why the hell should they?  What a ridiculous notion.



<<<<<Anyway, "affirmative action" is all about redressing the balance surely?>>>>>



Equal opportunity is one thing, and I have no problem with that. However, not when it's at the expense of others, and that is the crucial problem with revenge discrimination (oops, affirmative action).  People will still be subjected to discrimination, it's just a different sort, but every bit as blatant and a whole world more hypocritical.  Unless you're willing to oppose all types of oppression, essentially you stand guilty of direct contribution towards it!

Anyone here remember the "good old days" when it was enought to be white, male and English while everyone else had to apologise and be grateful?



Anyway, "affirmative action" is all about redressing the balance surely?

<<<<We would however, remind council(s) for the defence that "politically correctn" is a charge usually made  by rightwing politicians, journalists and others when reminded that half the world is female and more than half the world isn't white!>>>>



And it's about time the PC ideologues (left wing versions of McCarthyism) realise they don't have exclusive copyright on discrimination and suffering and can't keep clinging to victimhood forever, plus they are every bit as capable of the double standards as they're so quick to find in others, eg their "affirmative action" policies are little more than revenge discrimination dressed up, and definitely every bit as intolerant as any "fascists" they're so quick to condemn when they hear opinions that different from their own.  It's a rare PC ideologue that wants to deal with the facts in the first place, most in my experience would easily censor the Goodies out of existence in their own minds before they got anywhere near putting things into context, thanks to their own (gasp) prejudices!!  Play the "Scatty Safari" episode in front of a PC crowd in Australia and many will froth at the mouth in moral outrage just because Bill Oddie says "abos".    It's ludicrous to suggest The Goodies wouldn't be condemned by PC.  My opinion, more as a libertarian than being aligned to any political "wing",  is they should have no case to answer in the first place. 



Thanks to poltical correctness, censorship of future Goodies DVDs is still going be possible.  So much for radical change, one set of pro-censorship moral busy-bodies has been replaced by another.  Just *different* censorship, some progress!

This court finds the Goodies "not guilty" of all charges of sexism having viewed the episodes "Women's Lib" "Cunning Stunts" and also the opening sequence to "The Beanstalk".  This court also finds them to be "not guilty" of racism having viewed "South Africa" and "Alternative Roots".



We would however, remind council(s) for the defence that "politically correctn" is a charge usually made  by rightwing politicians, journalists and others when reminded that half the world is female and more than half the world isn't white!



Case dismissed (bangs gavel and has to put soothing ointment on it!)

Actually, anyone who can produce material so pro-women's lib as the episode commonly known as...'women's lib' must be anything BUT sexist! Such brilliant portrayal of the beastly way some men still behaved at the time (fortunately it was on the decrease, but it's still not completely irradicated) can't be considered sexist, surely? It does ring true of episodes like South Africa (NEVER racist!) and Hunting Pink (well, ok I maybe reading too much into it, but as a veggie, ecofreak and save the animals type guy I think the huntin' shootin' n' fishin' type are perfectly disgraced in that episode and it remains one of my favourites). Therefore I conclude that the Goodies are perfectly PC and should be repeated on BBC2 (One's taking it too far!), released series by series and have a few decent documentaries made about them (even though we all know the story).

It's interesting though, as "The Goodies" made an interesting point with their apartheight episode. They were saying that segragation between the African people was no more logical then separatiing short and tall people. They were making a poiltical point that apartheid was pretty ridiculous. The rest you take in context. I mean after all, it is the 70s, and I am a female viewer of "The Goodies" and take all the female jokes in context.

Lets face facts. One man's (woman's) cup of tea is another's poison. But lets try to keep things in prospective.



Take 'Love Thy Neighbour' for example. Put it on at 7:30pm on a Friday evening.



Then follow it up with a programme about every broken promise and every stupid decision taken by any government in this country in the last 25 years or so.



Then decide which one has angered you the most.



TV has and always will be an expressive medium which over the years has reflected the various changing attitudes of the world at large.



If we analysised every programme made since "Yogi Bear" (!) invented the goggle box, to check for offensive material we'd be here till Xmas 2678 .... or something !



If you really want to know what offends me then look no further than Countdown.



If mental torture had its own TV show it would be this programme.



Get 576 using only 23, 12 , 2 , 4 and 8. What?



QTYWUVBZ longest word please. Huh?



That insane little jingle that plays to torment you whilst the clock is ticking. To you its a jingle... to me it says "You are crap you are. Mr Ungraded at Maths".



Don't even mention Richard Whitely and that human computer.



See we all have our TV breaking points !

You have to put every thing in context. Every thing from the 70's look rascist even though then they were as it where kicking against the pricks, prime example Til Death do Us part. Rascism and Sexism was handled in a sledgehammer way as audiences were not quite as sophisticated as we are now. Now thankfully we are more measured. I mean My Gran mother (84) thinks it's exceptable to call black people "darkies". However this sledgehammer approach still works on issues which we can not deal with hence Chris Morris' brilliant and brutal Brasseye. We are still "treated" as it were to many antiquated and painfully unfunny "gems" so I don't think the Goodies should be tainted with the same brush.

I think it's more to do with the BBC lack of ablitily to do anything with them, the same applies to Spike Milligan who is a genius but has some outrageous portrails of women. Not quite as bad as Carry on films however!.

Why don't they repeat Hancock for pity's sake!

Words like sexist and racist have no real meaning anymore, apart from being just another couple of terms of abuse from the PC ideologues when hearing opinions that differ from their own....



There is no case to answer, case dismissed and court is held in contempt by the people.  I rest my arse, m'lud .